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Deaver · Feb 15, 2009, 01:13 PM // 13:13

The OP in this thread is obviously trying to spread disinformation about AMD's stability. Intel's only major competitor is AMD, yet he says he has no reason to say anything bad about them?

Jumping Is Uselss · Feb 15, 2009, 01:32 PM // 13:32

Do you have any proof about AMD's stability? Rahja provides credible information to his arguments even though we may not agree with his opinions.

Wrath Of Dragons · Feb 16, 2009, 12:56 AM // 00:56

So, my main interest right now is triple-channel memory and a quad (or more) processor.
Hence, the i7 I am looking to get.
I guess my issue is: will the current x58 mobo be able to handle these upcoming processors (6 cores out in ~fall/winter, i assume) with only a bios upgrade? Or will a entirely new MoBo be needed?

Lord Sojar · Feb 17, 2009, 02:03 PM // 14:03

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Originally Posted by Wrath Of Dragons

So, my main interest right now is triple-channel memory and a quad (or more) processor.
Hence, the i7 I am looking to get.
I guess my issue is: will the current x58 mobo be able to handle these upcoming processors (6 cores out in ~fall/winter, i assume) with only a bios upgrade? Or will a entirely new MoBo be needed?

That is a good question. Intel hasn't confirmed it either way.... but my logical assumption unless they say otherwise is that an x58 motherboard would be able to accept a Gulftown processor simply because the triple channel architecture lends itself entirely to that CPU design.

Yang Whirlwind · Feb 17, 2009, 04:17 PM // 16:17

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Originally Posted by Deaver

The OP in this thread is obviously trying to spread disinformation about AMD's stability. Intel's only major competitor is AMD, yet he says he has no reason to say anything bad about them?

It seems you are trying to discredit Rahja's information by claiming it is biased.
You do however not offer any support of this theory other than a very dubious leap of logic:
Posting information that supports Intel = being against AMD

Please note that every conclusion Rahja makes is supported by reasoning and links to further information.

Quaker · Feb 17, 2009, 04:38 PM // 16:38

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

In addition, their second generation integrated memory controller will debut <font color="FireBrick">paired with an integrated graphics chip</font>. Yes, you read that correctly: Fusion, but not by AMD...

If it's like any other "Intel integrated graphics", AMD has no worries on that front.

It's interesting that the same people who are saying "wait for i5" are the same people who were saying "wait for i7". They also had the same pie-in-the-sky reasons for waiting too - and look how i7 turned out (a toy for the rich "enthusiast" - or a useful tool for server/workstation people).
I agree with those who would say "don't wait". If you (actually) need to upgrade your cpu, do it now. The current crop of CPUs is good enough.

Another important aspect of this (which some others have mentioned) is that most of this (proposed) cpu performance increase is of little or no use to the average user. It will not make any significant change in the performance of normal desktop apps like your browser or word processor, and games are usually limited by the GPU, not the CPU.
It's like waiting for the next generation Ford which has 8 bazillion horsepower and goes 150 mph, when all you want is a mini-van to drive the kids to school at (at most) 60 mph.

Sir Skullcrasher · Mar 12, 2009, 06:24 PM // 18:24

I would take a guess that if I wanted to build a new gaming rig. Buying the Core i7 CPU right now would be useless since by years end the new Core i5 will be out.

Not to mention buying motherboard that only supports i7, would mean that I need a new motherboard again once Core i5 is out?

Somebody help me out on that!

Either way, I'm going to get my 2x GTX 285 soon so I can get my SLI rig ready!!

ChopChop · Mar 12, 2009, 06:39 PM // 18:39

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Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher

Not to mention buying motherboard that only supports i7, would mean that I need a new motherboard again once Core i5 is out?

Somebody help me out on that!

i5 will be slower than i7 (obviously? Oo) and not support triple channel DDR3 memory, thus it wont use the expensive socket the i7 does.

I guess it is likely that the next 32nm high-end chip from Intel (presumably 3x dual cores stuck together with duct tape) will use the same socket the i7 currently does, however upgrading an i7 at that point probably wont make much sense as the performance of it is already extremely solid.

Besides, if you aren't afraid of a bit of over clocking, then making the i7 920 (2.6 ghz stock?) run at 3.6 ghz using the stock cooler is actually easy (most of them can even do 4+ if you get better cooling).

Kattar · Mar 12, 2009, 06:44 PM // 18:44

i5 is more targeted to work stations, not gaming rigs. i7 is what you want for gaming.

Lourens · Mar 13, 2009, 06:41 PM // 18:41

I think i wont get an i7 will wait what AMD will comup with

refer · Mar 13, 2009, 08:11 PM // 20:11

Honestly whatever AMD comes out with, it'll probably be enough for anybody on this topic.